Monday 16 August 2010

Discussion on the Knights Templar forum

I just posted a response to this excellent posting on the Knights Templar forum (link below):

The Great Secret of the Knight Templars

The barrel-vaulted roof of the Chapel, from east to west comprises sections of carvings of Daises, Lilies, Flowers, Roses and Stars. - The daisy has many white petals, the backs of which are tipped with pink, its centre has a large yellow (gold) head … white surrounding gold. The white Templar Mantle has a large red Latin cross on the back. - The Lilies … St. Matthew, and why take ye thought for raiment. Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: yet I say unto you, that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Sir William St Clair introduces King Solomon … and Solomon built a Temple. - The Flower panel is left for the moment … we move to the Rose panel. - In the Song of Solomon ... I (Solomon) am the rose of Sharon and the lily of the valleys. It is once again Solomon and a link with the Lilies and a valley … (the valley of the River Sals). - With the ‘Stars’, there are Angels, the Sun, Moon, a Dove, Jesus himself and what looks like water. In Luke’s Gospel ... Now when all the people were baptised, it came to pass that Jesus also being baptised, and praying, the heavens was opened and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a Dove upon Him and a voice came from Heaven. Jesus (St. Nazaire), and the river Sals at Rennes les Bains (a Spa).
The Daises say, ‘Templar and Gold’ ... The Lilies and Roses point to Solomon and the ‘Temple at Jerusalem’. The Star section tells us of ‘Jesus and bathing’. Putting the Daisy, Lilies, Roses and Star panels together the (Key) message may be read as …
The Knight’s Gold from the Temple of Solomon is in the Church of St. Nazaire Et Celse at Rennes les Bains.
The Flower Section is between the ‘Roses’ and the ‘Lilies’, both referring to Solomon. The arrow-headed pendant boss suspends from the arch separating the Roses and Flower section. Knight and Lomas describe the centre of the invisible Seal of Solomon as being on the floor of the Chapel immediately below the suspended boss.
The Flower section points us to the vaults beneath the Chapel. In Psalm 103 verse 15. … As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth. For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more. … In St Matthew … wherefore, if God so clothe the grass (flowers) of the field, which to day is, and tomorrow is cast into the oven … the fireplace that is in the Sacristy. (The Apprentices Pillar also holds a clue). A John Slezer, writing in 1693, knew of bodies of the barons of Rosslyn found well preserved after four score years in the vaults … the Ark was not mentioned.
Sir Walter Scott’s epic poem, ‘The Lay of the Last Minstrel’ – “Seemed all on fire that chapel proud, where Roslyn’s chiefs uncoffin’d lie. Each Baron, for a noble shroud, Sheathed in his iron panoply. Seemed all on fire within, around, deep sacristy and altars pale. Shone every pillar foliage bound (Apprentices Pillar), and glimmered all the dead men’s mail. Blazed battlement and pinnet high, blazed every rose-carved buttress fair. So still they blaze when fate is nigh, the lordly line of high St. Clair” … And when fate was nigh, the fire was lit in the fireplace in the Sacristy.
Sir Walter Scott knew the way down into the vaults below the Chapel was via the fireplace in the Sacristy, he was privy to the innermost secrets of the Templars.

Geoffrey

‘The Secret Church, the Treasure of Rennes-le-Chateau’


Geoffrey - that was a really cool post. I agree with you on most points and that is one of the most thorough analysise of the symbology of the Templar literature in Rennes that I have read.
Of course there is no doubt that the templars were in and around Rennes. I have so  many thoughts - hard to get them all down here. I have been researching the subject  myself for years now and have been there because I read the book by Ben Hammott and I believed at one point most of what he was saying. The reason I believe it still is because my research too has led me to  believe that the treasure [i]was[/i] near Rennes.

You say: "The Knight’s Gold from the Temple of Solomon is in the Church of St. Nazaire Et Celse at Rennes les Bains." I am not yet sure of the precise location but you may be right. It [i]may[/i] have been there  until 1891 but now it has been moved.

Not enough discussion has centred around whether the Templars were sympathetic to the Cathares and whether in fact the treasure of the Templars is the same as that smuggled out of Montsegur in 1244 just before the end of the siege. I believe it was the same and an enormously fabulous treasure but somehow this has since been converted into great amounts of gold.  Furthermore somebody, and I think probably descendens of the Cathares or Knights Templar (Knights Hospitaliar?) are in control of  it and use it  as a lure for new recruits. This is what Ben Hammott saw. Nothing else can explain why so many people have witnessed treasures in different places at different times and yet nobody has said they have the whole treasure. It is just bits and pieces here and there.

I think there were 12 pots of gold placed around Rennes and enough clues provided that only people with the right esoteric, religious knowledge and  right attitude can find it and then they only find a small part - enough for them to get rich themselves and take the first step to  joining the 'elite'. They then eventually help recruit others by topping up the pots of gold. I am going to explore this much more on my own blog at [url]http://rennes-le-chateau-treasure.blogspot.com[/url].

2 comments:

  1. Re Great Secret of Knights Templar
    Chris, back in Aug 2010 you commented on my item … two points – You are unsure I have got it right – viz; "The Knight’s Gold from the Temple of Solomon is in the Church of St. Nazaire Et Celse at Rennes les Bains." If you know how to read Sauniere’s Station of the Cross you will arrive at Rennes les Bains. That Church is also the key to all the Templar sites, which are set out in the ‘danse macabre’ figures at Rosslyn, the Knight Effigies in Temple Church London and at Shugborough. The other point – Les Bergers d’Arcadie was the second of Poussin’s Arcadian Shepherds; the first was the ‘Chatsworth’. The Cardinals who commissioned Poussin ‘Et In Arcadia Ego’ (I was also in Arcadia [Arques]) knew of the two Cathar sites. The ‘Chatsworth’ and the painting of ‘Midas washing himself in the Pactolus’ give the clues … It’s all in my book – ‘The Secret Church, the Treasure of Rennes-le-Chateau.
    Regards
    Geoffrey

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  2. The Cross-legged Templar

    The Monumental Effigies in Temple Church are an enigma; some believing that the Knights with crossed legs were Crusader Knights. The true purpose of the nine stone effigies and the coffin however is far more interesting and was well understood by Grand Masters of the Order and those who placed the Effigies.
    When the original Knights returned from excavating under Temple Mount they brought back much treasure that was concealed at various locations known only to those Knights and successive Grand Masters. The secret of the treasure sites was recorded on the Chess Board which symbol became the Templar Banner. One of the sites is the ‘key’ to the rest. Of the other eight sites six are identified as being on black squares, depicted by the Knight Effigies with ‘crossed legs’, such as that of William Marshall 2nd Earl of Pembroke and the three effigies with footrests. Interestingly the effigy of a ‘member of the de Ros family’ is without armour and feminine in character (a French Female Knight, Chevaleresse). If so this would be consistent with the square it would occupy on the Chess Board and the location of the treasure.
    Geoffrey Morgan

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